28th Jan. /Donetsk/ Novorossia Today. The deputy of the People’s Council of the DPR from the fraction Free Donbass, deputy chairman of the Committee for internal policy and international relations Vladislav Berdichevskiy and Ukrainian politician from “Committee to Save Ukraine” Vladimir Oleynik discussed in a videoconference possible compromise between Donbass and Ukraine.
Vladimir, how do you see the future of new Ukraine and Donbass, will they exist together, or separately, will be Donbass federatin or confederation?
I suppose that Ukraine that was before February 2014 died, and will never relive. Such big negative events happened, the firt was the coup, it means that Constitution was trampled. According to this document, we had to change authorities through the election. The second, civil war happened, Ukraine lost territories. People were shot at the Maidan. People in Odessa were burnt. Federalization or confederalization is essential, if we do not change the government, and there are no compromises, the country will split for 3-4 parst. There is only one way to change the government and to establish new Constitution.
Vladislav, your point of view from Donetsk, how to change the government in Ukraine?
I see no basis now that Ukraine can change. We all understand perfectly from where the coup and the Maidan came from. Let us start from that there are two notions in the International Law: the right of people to self-determination and the right of states to territorial integrity. These definitions are interpreted in this case, primarily from the fact that the only country on the earth is the USA.
Vladislav, how do you think if representatives of the “Committee to Save Ukraine” arrive tomorrow to Donbass, will people listen to them?
Yes, we would listen, the head of the DPR and other represnetatives of the People’s Council said many times that we are ready to listen to the suggestions of the Ukrainian authorities. If Oleynik and Azarov represnt Ukraine, it will be constructive talks, now we have our own ministries, our Parliament, or courts, our prosecutor’s offices, or army, police, our state is functioning like independent. We adopted our taxation Codex, and the range of laws that are working. There are no grounds for the conversation of joing with Ukraine, even in conditions of federalization. It had to be in March or April 2014. It was possible to solve, to establish confederation. Why do we have to forget the results of the right of people to self-determination?! We have such rights as American nation had, how French, Holland and German nations had. We have such right. People of Donbass have all ethnic features of one national and one territory, and we would insist that we have right to self-determination. People would vote to live as a part of Ukrainian confederation in 20 year or to be a part of Russia or to be independent, it is a choice of our people.
Oleynik added ‘if the government change, probably people change their will, we have to be open now, we understand that your overcame a big tragedy, I think that this question will be solved gradually. We will wait. You can be unrecognized, however, it is very difficult. Ask economists, they will answer that the situation is difficult. Nevertheless, Ukraine is not to show such aggression to those who said that want to live independently.
Translated by Nataliya Sinyavskaya
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